Is there an obvious and deliberate breakdown of law and order in the country? In a long recorded phone conversation, invoking fear from murder threats to attacks, the daughter of former Hawks boss Mthandazo Berning Ntlemeza on Thursday phoned a police officer who was a complainant in a case against her father, and threatened to kill him.

Furious anfd ferocious Anele Ntlemeza, who is also a strong  police officer, reigned spurious abuses and other profane verbal attacks on Police Minister Fikile Mbalula during the call. She accused the officer of being an informant for Mbalula and said “they didn’t give a fuck” about the minister.

The phone call was made soon after Ntlemeza lost an application in the High Court in Pretoria on Thursday in which he attempted to interdict Mbalula from removing him as the Hawk’s head. The application was struck off the roll.

It has been confirmed that the evidence of the calls were all recorded and News24 has a copy of them.